Running Scared
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IMDB rating: 7.50 Plot: After a drug-op gone bad, Joey Gazelle is put in charge of disposing the gun that shot a dirty cop. But things goes wrong for Joey after the neighbor kid stole the gun and used it to shoot his abusive father. Now Joey has to find the kid and the gun before the police and the mob find them first. |
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I know it's a sad question but.. What's the meanest thing you've seen someone do to their horse?
I know, sad question but it’s just that about 2 weeks ago I was at a barrel race and there was one horse and rider who were running fast constant times all day, but I guess kept coming up second. Every time I would watch this lady exit the arena she didn’t look happy. Then when the lady who kept beating her ran and beat her time, she would slap her horse on the neck and say something under her breath. I wanted to go up and tell her to quit blaming her horse just because he wasn’t he wasn’t his best today (even though he was running great times), but my trainer told me just to stay out of it. So it was the last run of the evening and the mean lady was up. He horse ran the first two barrels perfectly, but it was starting to get dark so a photographer on the sidelines turn on the flash, and as the horse turned the top barrel and the camera flashed he spooked. He jumped to the side and completely toppled over the last barrel and went down. The rider went flying off his back too. The hose got up and was fine, but the lady was Pissed. She got up, grabbed the reins HARD, and jerked on his mouth backing him up and scaring him even more all while screaming "What the hell is your problem?! What was that?!". And if that wasn’t enough, she continually raised her hand threatening to hit him, further frightening him. The judge had to say over the intercom "Don’t take it out on your horse! Exit the arena now!" After the show was over, the lady walked past us leading her horse and I yelled, "You shouldn’t be riding!" She just snarled at me and my trainer laughed.
So then Sunday I was at an open show that I just went to watch. I noticed one girl was being particularly bratty and using her whip quite often when her horse wasn’t doing a thing. And she wasn’t using it as an aid, but as punishment every time her horse did some thing as small opening it’s mouth. I kept an eye on her as the barrel race was still fresh in my mind. So I watched during the flat classes and she seemed to be very tense an wouldn’t let off the horses mouth. Between each class just whip the crap out of this poor horse for no reason and keep yanking on the bit every time the horse went a little to fast. So the jumps came and they seemed to be doing fine (though she kept spurring the horse every time they landed which there absolutely no reason for that). So it went from crossrails to 2 foot jumps and they were doing ok. But then her horse got to exited and leaped forward knocking down the poles (which heavy wood ones). The girl came off the side and the horse took off. It was clear the horse was obviously limping as the girl put no protective gear on it’s legs. The horse cantered once around the arena limping quite badly then stopped by her rider (who was fine). She walked over, grabbed the reins of the spooked horse who was breathing heavily, took her crop, and smacked her in the face. No joke. The horse tossed her head way up and the girl let go and literally walked away, leaving her horse standing in the middle of the arena. Her mom approached her and said something like "What are you doing?! Go get your horse now!" she said "No! I hate that horse! Get rid of it!!" then she walked off and locked herself in the truck for the rest of her show while her mom took care of her horse. I was totally shocked. This was a NICE horse, one of the best there, there is no reason to get rid of it just because of a mistake, she was just a snob who wanted $100,000 pro jumpers. I couldn’t believe what had just happened. I’ve never seen anything happen like that at a show, and never twice in a row.
Anyway sorry I’m talking so much but I just had to get that off my chest. Those shows got me thinking about how mean people can be to their horses. So what’s the meanest or cruelest thing you’ve every seen someone do to their horse in person? (Not in a video or a pic)
Sorry, I didn’t read it all but I worked at a horse rescue center and this race horse came in with razors jammed in his hooves. Apparently the owner was hoping the pain would cause the horse to pick up his hooves faster, making him run faster.
It was soo horrible! ):
Bri | Feb 04, 2010
I haven’t really seen anything bad like that, but I sent my horse to a "natural" horsemanship barn for 2 months to see how he would be riding english, after I got him back he was so skiddish, and he was 12, not a little colt who gets scared easy. I later went snooping around secretly and found out they starve the horses to get them to do what they want.
Katilette | Feb 04, 2010
I can top anyone I am sure. I knew a guy who ran a riding tour company. He had one great horse who you could put anyone on. He would pack them around and stand without moving a hoof for hours while kids brushed him. Because he was so good, he did twice as many rides as any other horse. He was an older horse. Anyway, the string got an attack of strangles and this old guy was hit rather hard. He lost weight and took ages to get better (Needless to say no vet ever saw this or any of the horses sickened). One day I went over and this old guy was gone. They had taken him into the high country and pushed him off a cliff and left him for dead. They figured the mountain lions would finish the job.
Animal protection came around and just asked him not to do it again.
A great reward for 20 years of faithful service huh…..he didn’t even have the decency to put a bullet in his head, just left him injured and dying in pain. I lost a little faith in humanity at that point.
Trilogy | Feb 04, 2010
about 3 months ago,my friend traded an old barrel horse (that was meant to be retired) for this 3 yr old filly,well,the woman decided to lie and not retire the horse,and my friend didnt like the filly,so she demanded they trade back,well when the woman came to get the filly,and drop off the barrel racer,the filly wouldnt go into the tailor,so the woman stood out there for 30 mins beating this horse,finally she got one of the people to help her,and had to slap its flanks a bunch of times with the whip,and she got in,it was sad,thats why I would never want to sell my horse,its too easy to abuse them,and its legal,its amazing how horrible things can be called training,if you beat a dog when training it its abuse,why are racers allowed to whip the crap outta a horse??? when we went to get feed one time,the owner of the store told us about a horse that someone found almost dead out in the middle of no where tied to a tree,with its head to high to be able to eat or anything,cause of the economy,turning it lose would have been bad enough,thats alot worse.
Real Deal CowGirl | Feb 04, 2010
wow i’ve just got to say that is really mean, im lucky where i haven’t witnessed anything like that but i haven’t started showing yet. i feel like some people think im too mean to my horse, but i have to use the crop to get him to move and its more of a sound crop than a hurting crop and he doesn’t respond to the sound, so i when i use the crop normally it makes a thunderous sound. but he is most spoiled, gets a treat after every ride. and I’ll come out On some of his off days and just groom, him.
Kathy E. | Feb 04, 2010
I’m sorry you had to witness that, its’ really hard to see people do stuff like that to innocent animals. I would never act that way to my horse or any horse, and I can tell you wouldn’t either. I remember at a barn I used to ride at, a green horse stopped at a jump with the trainer riding him, and he fell off. He got up and beat the horse’s chest with the crop while screaming at it in front of all of us ( I was about 12 and there were younger girls in the class too.) It was heartbreaking - the horse was green and didn’t completely understand what to do and should not have been punished. I also notice the snobbiness of a LOT of riders. I appreciate the art of riding too much to care about the social aspect.
Ali | Feb 04, 2010
I went to a JUNIORS ONLY event. One girl fell off her horse, she blamed it on him so she grabbed his rein yanked his head to her and slapped him.
One time I went to a three star rated dressage show. One woman rode her clearly not in the best shape little Quarab for 2 hours later in the afternoon schooling him.
Edit: Some of the stories reminded me of a horse my grandmother rescued. He was a QH cross, very sweet. His past owner didn’t know how to ride. They rarely managed to place at shows and if they did they certainly didn’t have the scores to have gotten it. This woman would get so frustrated with him that she would throw the saddle at his face.
Kylie! | Feb 04, 2010
I HATE kid’s gymkhanas and rodeos. When a horse is a tool to make a kid look good, parents will do ANYTHING to win.
Bicycle chain mouthpieces. Bits wrapped in wire. Whips made out of lengths of old lariat rope so the rider can whip the horse down along the inside of the hind legs or to lash a competitors horse in the face to prevent it passing in a race.
The "barrel racer wave" - whipping a horse from the third barrel to the finish line hard enough to leave welts.
Ropers using hot shots to keep old horses preforming.
Drugging a horse so it can preform injured.
I’ve seen some terrible things done in ignorance - which can be forgiven. Sometimes people just don’t know or don’t understand or aren’t capable of thinking something through. If I had room I’d tell you the story of buying a pair of Haflinger mares from a mentally disabled individual. But to see some of the terrible things parents will do so their kid can win a belt buckle or ribbon. . . . . that’s the bottom.
SLA | Feb 04, 2010
I was trail riding with my parents and a couple friends at a state park. Afterward we were loading up, and my mom’s mare refused to load. I was busy loading my own horse a few hundred feet away and didn’t notice when some woman came up to "help" my mom, who is new to horses and a little unsure of herself.
The woman took a longe whip and started beating my mom’s little mare, who normally loads good but was being a little testy that day because she was in heat and there was a stud in the campground. She was screaming, cussing and whipping the horse so hard it was leaving whelts across her body.
I heard my mom yelling, saw what was going on, ran over and whacked that "woman" right in the jaw. Then I chased her off with her own whip. The whole time she was screaming, cussing and calling me, my mom and her horse foul names.
Don’t know where she got the nerve to do that, but if I ever see her again I’m gonna let her have it again. Nobody in camp claimed to know her, but I’ll bet nobody that was there will forget her either. She didn’t make any friends trying to help out that day.
Maria | Feb 04, 2010
I’ve been a horse trainer for 12 years. I also help to find homes for rescue horses and horses that people want to ‘get rid of’. I’ve seen and handled a lot of horses that were victims of cruelty. One was an older gelding (living) that had a huge hole through his neck like someone jammed a 2×4 through him. I’ve handled walkers that come from abusive "training facilities" where there feet are sored and they are made to stand in muddy stalls 24/7. I’ve personally picked up horses that were left in pens that are just barely bigger than the horse, usually with no food, water, or grass, and sometimes the pen has a concrete bottom instead of dirt. I’ve seen a horse that had somehow gotten wrapped up in barb-wired fencing. I’ve even witnessed a man repeatedly shoot his horse with a BB gun.
It sickens me how many people so willingly abuse their horses, and all other animals. Please, if you ever see someone who mistreats their horse, REPORT THEM. Same goes for training facilities and individual trainers. Research the place/person that you intend to send your horse to, and if you find any instinces of cruelty, report them. Don’t stop reporting them until the problem has been taken care of and the animals are safe.
Anonymous Me | Feb 04, 2010
i no this doesnt sound nearly as bad as all the others but i once entered a working hunter show on my irish draught.there was a girl on a stunning cob that came second.the judge told her she hadnt been awarded full marks as the cob hadnt shown enough outline.the girl threw her rosette in the bin, slapped his belly,called him stupid,then spat in his eye….disgusting.i wish it had kicked her in the face.nevermind the fact it was prob her bad riding that ruined the outline.
Samantha | Feb 04, 2010
The meanest thing have done to a horse was when one came to me to train, it had been handled very little. It would kick, bite almost unmanageable with a halter on.
I had told the fellow I would train him and when he unloaded him out of the trailer, I knew he would be trouble. Had I seen him first I would not have taken him.
He just looked stupid and mean. I tried to reason with him for two days you know the sugar and carrot patience stuff. I knew that was not going to work on him.
I took him to the arena and hobbled his front feet and tied a hind to that with about a 2 foot space.
He fought and fought went down on his nose and back up, bloody mouth. bloody nose.
He did not stop till he was in a lather, when He stopped I saddled him got on and off , put a tarp over him, used a plastic flag around him, hosed him off after I unsaddled him. Tied him to a solid post and foot gentled him he still had a little fight in him.
I rode him the next day and had him riding out and reining pretty good in about 50 days.
Gave the guy lessons on him and sent him home, The owner stopped my house the next year and said the horse had got caught in wire and had stood there a few days because of the amount of manure there. He had learned not to fight when his feet were caught.
The horse worked out for him and they liked him
Lilian | Feb 04, 2010
In all my years of showing and being around horses, I have actually never seen anything too terrible (thank God). Though, I always have remembered when I was a little kid, just learning to ride, I was at one of my first shows that had both English and western events. I was watching the barrel racing and there was a teen aged boy riding one of the school horses, and would yell at this horse. He would scream and yell at this horse aggressively and you could see his teeth clenched and his face was red. After all these years it just disturbed me to see this boy do this and no one say anything. Sure he wasn’t beating or physically harming the horse, but it has just bothered me…
Forward is Your Friend | Feb 04, 2010
I’ve done a lot of showing and thus seen a lot of disappointed riders taking things out on their horse. I’m not the type of person that pets their horse everytime it does something wrong, and I’m all for disciplining a horse if he does something he knows he shouldn’t do (for instance, if I’m schooling my horse at the barn and he spooks or balks, which is a total no-no, I’m going to yank him around and spur him hard until he decides to do what I ask). The one time he really did something horrible–he bolted not long after I bought him–my trainer had me take him in the roundpen, tie his bit to the stirrup (not super tight, just enough to flex his head a little), and make him gallop; once he was sweating and tired, he made me get back on him and gallop him with my spur jammed in his side the entire time, to teach him that he can’t buck and bolt simply because a spur touched him. Maybe that sounds "cruel," but it worked, and it was done because he had done something dangerous out of disobedience (not fear or inability). I’m pretty sure most people on here disagree with me, but I do it alongside both of the trainers I’ve used in the last few years and it works. However, I’m not going to beat my horse senselessly for no reason, or just because he gets beaten at a show. If he’s done his best, I don’t care if he gets second or last. If he hasn’t done his best, I don’t care if he gets first–he still didn’t do well. The woman you described who hit her horse after the placings was announced was just stupid. The horse didn’t actually do anything wrong (nothing to merit punishment) and either way, hitting him minutes later means absolutely nothing to him, since he can’t understand that he was supposed to get first instead of second.
Quite awhile back, I was watching a hunter/jumper show in one of the bigger hunter classes. Some kid’s horse refused and she fell off. She immediately got up and got back on to discipline her horse. I probably would have disciplined my horse as well (in my opinion, if the horse knows how to jump and you’ve set him up fine, then he has no reason to refuse and should be disciplined for doing so). However, she started spinning him around so fast, she fell off again (through no fault of her horse’s–she just couldn’t keep her balance while spinning him!). That, of course, made her even more mad, but probably taught her a lesson too :).
LopeSlow | Feb 04, 2010
Me and my horse were at a shot clinic and there was a girl there with her horse. The horse was being good it just picked its leg up and rested. she whipped it until it started to bleed i felt so bad for it. I wanted to go over there and whip her but some one else ran over there. They told her to leave and yelled at her. She was lucky i didn’t get there first.
Jenny H | Feb 04, 2010
A friend of mine leased a miniature pony to keep as stable company to her show horse. He was always grumpy and didn’t much like people, and one day they clipped him because his coat was too thick. He had scars all over him, these small white spots on his face and body. He wouldn’t let anyone touch them, so they took him to the vet, who removed air rifle pellets, mostly from his face. His previous owners used to use him for shooting practice, since he was about the same size as a wild pig.
Up the road from her was a run down fuel station, with a fence around it. No grass or dirt, just all concrete. A horse lived in there unfed for years until he died of starvation. His owners didn’t want him anymore so took him there and left him.
At a show I watched a woman drive a metal spike (6inches long) into the neck of her show pony because he was fidgeting while she braided him.
At another show that ran over several days, my Auntie returned to her pony to find that someone had docked her tail in jealousy of my Aunt’s winnings.
The worst was in a doco I watched about an older couple who owned a QH Stallion. He didn’t come in for breakfast one day and they found him barely alive at the back of his paddock. A jealous competitor had gone in with an axe and mutilated him. They hacked off parts of him and they had to put him down on site.
HesterMofet11 | Feb 04, 2010
The plain out meanest thing I’ve seen is the stuff people do in competitions-I’ve done speed event competitions, so people doing things to get horses in the alleyway or when they just get frustrated with them for getting a bad time. The worst was someone kicking a horse repeatedly in the stomach for not entering the alleyway (this was while someone was on it’s back whipping it). They’ve since made rules that you get disqualified for abusing horses, but whipping doesn’t count. (I’m noticing how many people’s answers have to do with competition related abuse.)
The most horrifying thing I’ve seen I don’t know if it was neglect or just sheer ignorance. Some family that I don’t know had three horses…they couldn’t feed them so they gave them to their friends. They came to find they also couldn’t care for the horses so my family went to get them. By the time we had heard about them though, it was basically too late. One horse had died, and upon arrival a second one was dying. It couldn’t get up to get in the trailer. We were only able to get the third horse. Again, I don’t know if they just didn’t know how to care for horses or were neglecting them.
alex | Feb 04, 2010
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